Power of Conversational Hypnosis: Secret to Frank Kern's Success?

In the process of researching conversational hypnosis, once again my efforts led me to a connection to Frank Kern.

Funny thing is, one of my original reasons for suspecting that Kern and Cliff Mee were in fact the same person was that as I got more familiar with the concepts in The Power of Conversational Hypnosis, the more I began to see them in action in Kern's marketing materials.

Apparently, I am not the only one thinking along these lines. Ever heard of Marlon Sanders? yeah, that Marlon Sanders.

He's a pretty heavy hitting marketer. As I was surfing around gathering info about this product (Power of Conversational Hypnosis) I happened to come across an archived article over at Aweber.

I included it below. All I can say is, Marlon and I think alike. (What's that expression about "great minds" again..? ;) )

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Breaking News Flash.....

Hello,

Marlon here.

Important new discovery.

I believe I just stumbled across the secret source behind Frank
Kern's Mass Control:
Conversational-Hypnosis.com

Yesterday, I read a statement that sucked me right in....

It said that perceptions were the door to influencing the masses.
Immediately, like right that MOMENT, I hopped over to Google.
I had to see what I could dig up and discover.

Sure enough. After searching 3 or 4 pages on Google for the
term "stealth influence" I found an obscure reference to the
highest priced ebook I've seen lately.

Two hundred bucks for this deal about "conversational hypnosis."
Which would normally do nothing for me. But then I devoured
the bullet points.

You won't believe what I found. You can read 'em here:

Conversational-Hypnosis.com


All of a sudden I remembered how Frank tells lots of stories.
And right there, it talked about how stories influence people.

Pow! Mass control.

It told the real secrets of establishing yourself as an
authority. When I snagged a copy (I couldn't stop myself), I
read how that an authority must never appear to try too hard or
you lower your authority.

Boom! Frank Kern. Mass Control. It all added up.

Then there were things about "fractionation." And I remembered
how Frank always shows 2 or 3 locations in his videos.

Mass control again.

As I read every single bullet point in the sales letter, I saw the
themes. Which means that perhaps I'd accidentally found the real
hidden source.

This oozed of "pro" stuff I'd never seen the likes of anywhere.
No one else talked about these things. Especially when I read
the transcript of the CD on STEALTH Tactics...page 143...
"The Law of Reverse Effect." Then there were 3 distraction
tactics...changing the topic, confusion and overload.

My mind drifted to the amazing letters of John Carlton...you know
how John always begins with incredible story? Like the one legged
golfer....remember that one?

He LOADS it up with sensory rich descriptions...

That's conversational hypnosis right there. Your conscious mind
gets totally preoccupied thinking about the details....and then
when you come with the embedded command or action words...BOOM!

You respond IMMEDIATELY.

I saw that Carlton does this in almost every letter. And he lays
on the details thick. That's a distraction method called
"Overload."

I remembered that Carlton worked closely with Stompernet on their
first launch. Did that have something to do with it?

You might wanna check out the sales letter right now just to see
what I'm talking about....

Conversational-Hypnosis.com


Here's page 128 where he talks about "seeding hypnotic ideas."
Then on page 210 he talks about "hot words." Tell me John
Carlton doesn't use THAT hypnotic method also. And so does
Frank.

Then there are action accelerators on page 218 and hwo to soften
commands so you don't antagonise people (page 220).

Page 266 reveals how to create emotional triggers with stories.
That's one I have to read soon as I'm finished dashing off this
memo to you. I can't wait to find out what THAT is about.

The thing actually has a formula for persuasion also: absorb
attention, then bypass critical function, activate an unconscious
response and lead to a desired result.

On page 351 is the Zeigarnik effect. I remember Mark Joyner
talking about that. Did he use conversational hypnosis? My
mind REALLY wonders 'bout that one.

If you want to check it out now, you can go here:

Conversational-Hypnosis.com


.... Or just continue reading and then check it out....

Page 352 is about how to destroy resistance with stories.
Then there are 4 levels of nested loops. Page 346...how to
install emotional triggers.

Here are 4 steps to help people change....the 3 purposes of
confusion....no WONDER people feel confused....is this being
done to them deliberately?

...page 507 talks about power tactics, authority strategy and
agreement tactics. Then there are hard, soft, nested, intermediate
and advanced loops on page 524.

Binds and double binds and their roe is on page 543. I ran out
of paper....so I don't have the rest printed yet.

Here is the real kicker....I saw a reference ..... I don't
remember offhand...I'll have to find it....but I saw a reference
to the pick up artist community...which is what Frank had a big
launch in....

Did he stumble across this stuff when he got involved in that?
Is that the real source of Mass Control? Or is this a coincidence?
Is he a hypnotist or does he have an nlp background? Or is he
unconscious of all this?

Is this book the secret source of mass control?

Thos answers have yet to be determined....You can read it yourself
and make your own well-reasoned conclusion...

Conversational-Hypnosis.com

Best wishes,

Marlon Sanders

PS: One thing....this book has some serious techniques in it...
He really does talk about hypnotic methods...if you're a raw
newbie....this probably isn't for you...unless you're just
curious...in which case all bets are off...

Conversational-Hypnosis.com

Conversational Hypnosis for Internet Marketing?

First of all, conversational hypnosis is a growing trend online these days. Probably owing to the fact that some pretty big league online marketers have gotten involved in the production of information products (ebooks, video training, etc.) about this subject.

The Power of Conversational Hypnosis is a top selling Clickbank product currently, and it is published by a guy named Clifford Mee (publisher) & written by Igor Ledochowski (author.)

Now, if you visit the product site and notice their address at the bottom of the page (which is the same address found on all of their autoresponder emails, if you sign up for their free course) you will see what is actually a very familiar address to those that hang out in internet marketing circles:

93 S. Jackson Street
Seattle, WA

Ring a bell? Anyone? Anyone?

Yeah, that's the same return address on all of Frank Kern and cousin Trey Smith's correspondence.

In fact, I have a little theory. If you look at the head shot of this alleged "Clifford Mee" (and what kind of sur name is "Mee" anyway? ) and then look at a head shot of Frank Kern. Stay with me here.

Now, mentally, shave off the Grizzley Adams Who Surfs beard, and give him a short haircut, who do you have? Looks an awful lot like this "Clifford Mee" guy, to me anyway.

So what do you think? Am I on to something here, or just have way too much time on my hands...? Drop a comment below and let me know.

Cheers!

Part 2 - Update:

Well, I earned myself the privilege of eating my hat...;)

I'll take the liberty now to answer my rhetorical question, "What kind of sur name is 'Mee' anyway?..." Simple. It's the kind that belongs to a very real guy named Clifford Mee.

I replied to one of his autoresponder messeges, on a complete whim, razzing him about being Frank and/or Trey in disguise. I honestly thought it would get stuck in an outsourced support help ticket purgatory, and just plain ignored due to my sophomoric humor, if nothing else.

And then his support person proceeded to reply back, confirming very politely for me that she has never heard of "those Frank and Trey guys", and that Clifford and his partner Igor are very real people.

And did I mention? She copied Clifford. And Clifford replied to me, and he copied Megan, and Leah, and...about 4 other members of his support staff, and his business partner Igor...

They were all very polite and laughed it off, but I think this will be the last time I go launching private investigations over who is marketing under what pen name.

Not to go stirring anything else up here but, the question still begs to be answered: Why do Frank and Trey have a mailing address in exactly the same building in WA as Clifford Mee? There is a U.S. post office branch there, rumor has it. Obviously, anyone who wants a P.O. box there could get one, theoretically...

And Cliff (yeah, I call him "Cliff" . He's cool with it. We're kind of "pals" now) did mention that he has met the Blond Jesus of Internet Marketing himself, Frank Kern. Maybe one is the student/mentor of the other?

Oh well, maybe I'll never know, I'm done with this conspiracy theory.